I would like them to be required by law to make a public announcement that acknowledges to their members and to the general public that there is a problem within the organization and offer an apology to those who have been affected by it and an outline of what they plan to do about it.
Pete Zahut
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My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks
by umbertoecho inthrough this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.
initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.
all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.
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What would happen if you started calling jw's "sheep" rather than brother or sister?
by purrpurr infollowing on from the excellent thread started by open mind.... rather than calling the cult members brother smith etc what about calling them "sheep smith".
sheep jones?.
sheep morris the third?.
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Pete Zahut
What would happen if you started calling jw's "sheep" rather than brother or sister?
The possibilities are endless....Instead of saying, "Brother and Sister Smith have 3 children and are expecting a third in May", you'd say, "Ram and Ewe Smith have 3 Lambs at present but Ewe Smith will be Lambing for the 4th time in May."
Anyone giving a rambling talk or an overly long answer during the Watchtower study would be "bleating on" and when the GB asks for more donations, they'd be fleecing the flock again.
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Pete Zahut
You're welcome Phaedra...yeah...I figured you may have had second thoughts about putting too many details in your original post and edited it out. (been there...done that)
Anyway here's a few links to things that might be useful or give you some ideas of your own.
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My first advice is, don't panic and don't be too grim about all of this. Easy to say, I know but don't waste any mental energy on the what if's....focus on and only think about the outcome you want and don't allow your negative thoughts scare you to death and become a self fulfilling prophesy.
People are leaving jobs all the time...retiring, getting married, having babies, moving away etc. Do a google search for the "hidden job market". This is referring to the scores of jobs that are available at any given time but aren't yet advertised. Everyone and their dog is looking at and competing for openings that are already posted. I've had a lot of success finding jobs by looking at companies who do the type of work I'm qualified for or are in a field I would like to get in to and contacting them directly by phone or in person even though they don't have anything advertised and beating everyone everyone to the "hidden jobs" I discovered, before they were even posted.
The Job I've been in for the last 8 years is the best I've ever had. People stand in line for this job and typically they need an Engineering Degree to qualify but I encounterd it through my own sleuthing abilities, got in there first and convinced them that my experience would qualify me. Because I was Johnny on the spot, they decided to give me a shot rather than have to slog through the normal advertising and interviewing burden. I did them a favor in a way and a few weeks after I started, the District Mgr. called me in and said he was hearing good things about me and was really glad they found me.
Anyway, I can't be too specific with my advice as I don't know where you are living but I did notice that you said you are doing weekly checks of job postings. Likely this is because you are still working but if you can manage it, it would be good to do some sort of search each day. I have always approached job hunting as a daily job in itself. In the evening I write down 3 or 4 places to call or go to as well as a few things to look into. In the morning I'd get up and get going as if I were going to work. I'd have all the information I needed lined up so there was no energy wasted on indecision or disorganization.
At this point, if you have any contacts through your present job or know of similar jobs in other companies, you could contact them even if they don't have an opening right now, ask them for an informal interview by phone or in person and ask them what they typically like to see when they hire and ask them if they are aware of any openings in other companies they may be in contact with.
Again, I can't stress enough how important it is not to entertain any negative thoughts or listen to "tight job market" talk. People say stuff like that even when they don't have any facts to base it on and the news loves to scare the public because bad news sells. Avoid watching the news, search for work each day but do something fun (free) each day to reward yourself for your daily accomplishments, no matter how small you think they are. Look for a Job finding group in your area for support and for sharing ideas. Churches have these groups sometimes (gasp). Get some sort of brisk exercise each day and don't shut yourself away.
More often than not, things like this work out for the better, for most people, most of the time. You just have to slug your way through the "not knowing" part of it and get used to taking a "wait and see" attitude for now.
Hope that helps you....post some more details if you are able. Maybe someone will have some specific ideas for you.
-Pete
(edit...it looks like you removed a lot of the information you originally posted...hope my comments are still appropriate)
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An elder bought my son a suit
by Clambake ini guess being two months old and coming to the kh in his onesee was kind of offensive .
how rude of me.
i am thinking about returning to him.
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Don't give the idiot the satisfaction of knowing he got to you. If your child goes to the meeting make sure he is in his comfiest sleeper or onesie. Give the suit to whoever else has the next baby in the congregation, he will then know you didn't appreciate the gift without your saying anything. Sometimes the slow burn is best.
I like Lisa rose's idea the best so far but I also might return the suit to the store and get several more Onesies for the baby to wear to the meeting and if he asks about the suit, have your wife tell him to call you about that.
It seems odd that a man would be giving the baby a gift to your wife rather than letting his own wife give it to her. This is what makes me think he's making a statement as an elder, about getting the little boy started out on the proper path and is making it seem as if he thinks of himself as your wife and your son's spiritual head.
You know the situation best but I must admit that part of me thinks that if it were me, I'd call the elder and ask him why he chose a suit as a baby gift. I'd let him off the hook and thank him if he said he saw the suit and thought it was cute and your boy was the only baby he could think of who he could get it for.
If he said he thought the suit would get the boy started out right as young minister or something to that effect, I'd know that this was another case of an elder assuming his authority goes beyond the platform of the Kingdom Hall. I'd remind him that as the boy's father, I will be taking care of the his guidance and will be deciding what is appropriate for him to wear. Depending on how the conversation went, I'd thank him for the suit and for thinking of your the baby but I also might tell him I would be asking my wife to return the suit to him at the next meeting.
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Scripture fatigue
by New day ini wondered why i felt so fatigued over many years from hearing the same things again and again at the meetings.
even the scriptures become too familiar.
a few days ago i quickly read through all the gospels and realised i knew all the verses in detail.
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Maybe better to try to just live by moral precepts without being bludgeoned by them all the time?
I grew tired of agonizing over what people think and have to say about what god does or doesn't want. JW's sucked all the joy out of learning or discovering things for myself and are responsible for turning me away from God and the bible and from religion altogether. I'm goin' it on my own from now on....so far...so good.
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Disco Sucks!
by professor indoes anyone remember how the society joined the "disco sucks" movement of the late 70's?
i remember reading in the mags about how disco was created by homos and that it has an "immoral beat" (whatever that means!
) it was also mentioned not to go see "saturday night fever" because someone gets a blowjob in the movie.. in our congregation, we had a special meeting about disco because people would request disco songs at our once-a-month jw skating party at the local skating rink.
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Pete Zahut
Lest we forget other forbidden genres...
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Remember that WT masturbation video? Who is the sign language person?
by FatFreek 2005 inbelow are a few screen captures from the video to serve as a reminder of what he looks like.
below those will be a few captures from a weather forecaster now at our kark tv (arkansas).
his name is matt peterson.
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Pete Zahut
Yes....it's him !Due to heavy budget cuts, he was laid off from Bethel and apparently the only work he qualified for was delivering weather related masturbation stories on KARK-TV News
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Passionless loveless JW.ORG. How? Why? My experience with these Pharasees.
by Witness 007 inso i studied with this guy who is now an elder in my moms hall.
she has cancer and is black and blue from it.
we are like real family so i invite him over for drinks and pizza.
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Pete Zahut
I hear ya' Witness 007. Becoming an JW Elder isn't an answer to a spiritual calling... more often than not, its done out of peer pressure and a desire for status. I can understand the predicament Elders find themselves in while dealing with their own families and their duties as an Elder but why all the hoopla about how wonderful they are compared to non JW religions in this regard ? They raise everyone's expectations with their boasting and are unable to follow through when the going gets really rough for people.
After building our lives and raising our kids to be active JW's and 25 years attending the same Hall, the Memorial of 2008 was the last meeting we attended.
3 years later a Circuit Overseer and one of the Elders showed up at our door to make a "spiritual call". I let them in and we had a pleasant enough conversation until I asked them what suddenly prompted their visit . The C.O. looked puzzled until he found out we'd been gone for 3 years and this was the first time anyone came looking for us, not even so much as a phone call. I in explained in detail our reasons for leaving and the horribly bungled disfellowshipping of our Son and daughter in law that led us to realize that something is terribly wrong with the JW organization as a whold.
The C. O. shot the Elder a look as if to say "how could you let this happen? " He was truly mortified and appologetic but it was too little too late as far as we were concerned.
Before they left, the C.O. offered me the latest magazines. I said to him "In light of all we've been through and everything I just told you, why would you think I'd ever want to read anything those magazines have to say? " He and the Elder skedaddled out of there and we've not heard anything from anyone since, which is fine with us.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say 007, iyours is not an isolated incident and if you're expecting any real follow through, for any length of time, you'll be sadly disappointed.
Best of hopes for your Mom's recovery and to you in helping her through this.
-Pete
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kid's, the things they say
by Sabin inwe had this plan of action with our kid's, if they asked us a question that we deemed they were to young to know about we would divert their attention, oh, could you fetch mummy her cardi, i'm feeling abit cold, there's some sweets in my pocket, would you like one etc, you get the idea.
usually this would be enough & they would forget about what they had asked.
when they wern't diverted & asked again we would provide an honest explanation suitable for their age.
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Pete Zahut
When my son was about 7 he asked me what a "Theocratic Throbber" was.
I hadn't heard that crude term in a long time and could hardly keep from laughing and asked him where he had heard this. Apparently he overheard some young JW guys talking about a cute girl they saw at the assembly and they used this expression and were laughing about it.
I decided it was time for an emergency change of subject and I said something like "Hmm...not really sure...so anyway....what's for lunch?
